HP Jetdirect External Print Server Products - External USB Compatibility
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...500, 510, 800, and 820mfp; HP Officejet Pro K550, K850, K5300, K5400 and 8000 Print and Windows based scanning: HP Color LaserJet CM1015mfp and CM1017mfp Print only: HP Color LaserJet CM3530mfp, CM4730mfp, CM6030mfp, CM6040mfp, 4730mfp; HP Officejet Pro K8600, L7300, L7500, ...HP Color LaserJet CP1515, CP1518, CP2025, CP3505, CP3525, CP4005, CP6015, 2500, 2550, 2600, 2605, 2700, 3000, 3600, 3700, 3800, 4610, 4650, 4700, 5550, 2820mfp, and 2840mfp; Its eventual replacement is fully backward compatible with these USB network-capable HP printers, AIO's, and MFP's: HP Business Inkjet 2300...
...500, 510, 800, and 820mfp; HP Officejet Pro K550, K850, K5300, K5400 and 8000 Print and Windows based scanning: HP Color LaserJet CM1015mfp and CM1017mfp Print only: HP Color LaserJet CM3530mfp, CM4730mfp, CM6030mfp, CM6040mfp, 4730mfp; HP Officejet Pro K8600, L7300, L7500, ...HP Color LaserJet CP1515, CP1518, CP2025, CP3505, CP3525, CP4005, CP6015, 2500, 2550, 2600, 2605, 2700, 3000, 3600, 3700, 3800, 4610, 4650, 4700, 5550, 2820mfp, and 2840mfp; Its eventual replacement is fully backward compatible with these USB network-capable HP printers, AIO's, and MFP's: HP Business Inkjet 2300...
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... with these USB network-capable HP peripherals: HP Business Inkjet 1000, 1100, 1200, 2280, 2300, 2600, 2800, 3000; HP specifically disclaims the implied warranty of this information. HP Designjet 30, 70, 90, 110+, 130, 500, and 800; HP LaserJet 1015, 1022, 1150, 1160, 1200, 1300, 2200, 2300, 2410, 2420, 2430, ...with respect to change without notice. HP Officejet 6100 series*; HP PSC 7350, and 7550 All-in -One; HP Deskjet 1180c, 1220c, 1280, 5150, 5550, 5650, 6122, 9300c, 9600c, 9650, 9670, 9680, and 9800 series; Microsoft, Windows, and Windows NT/2000/XP are trademarks or ...
... with these USB network-capable HP peripherals: HP Business Inkjet 1000, 1100, 1200, 2280, 2300, 2600, 2800, 3000; HP specifically disclaims the implied warranty of this information. HP Designjet 30, 70, 90, 110+, 130, 500, and 800; HP LaserJet 1015, 1022, 1150, 1160, 1200, 1300, 2200, 2300, 2410, 2420, 2430, ...with respect to change without notice. HP Officejet 6100 series*; HP PSC 7350, and 7550 All-in -One; HP Deskjet 1180c, 1220c, 1280, 5150, 5550, 5650, 6122, 9300c, 9600c, 9650, 9670, 9680, and 9800 series; Microsoft, Windows, and Windows NT/2000/XP are trademarks or ...
HP Printers - Supported Citrix Presentation Server environments
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... Terminal Server and Citrix supported by HP 2 Testing performed by HP ...3 HP LaserJet printers and supported driver versions 4 HP Color printers with Edgeline Technology and supported driver versions 12 Using the HP Universal Print Driver version 4.7 for Windows in Citrix environments 12 The difference between the Citrix and HP UPDs 13 Business Inkjet printers and supported driver versions 14...
... Terminal Server and Citrix supported by HP 2 Testing performed by HP ...3 HP LaserJet printers and supported driver versions 4 HP Color printers with Edgeline Technology and supported driver versions 12 Using the HP Universal Print Driver version 4.7 for Windows in Citrix environments 12 The difference between the Citrix and HP UPDs 13 Business Inkjet printers and supported driver versions 14...
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... Server™ 4.5 - This document explains the scan tests performed by HP • Microsoft Windows Server 2008 x64 Edition Terminal Services - These tests were run to determine how HP scanners and All-in-One printers and their associated TWAIN drivers performed using... software. Citrix Presentation Server™ 4.0 • Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Terminal Services - Citrix Presentation Server™ 4.0 - Executive summary Citrix® has collaborated with HP to test select HP printers and their associated HP print drivers in -One printers and TWAIN driver versions were...
... Server™ 4.5 - This document explains the scan tests performed by HP • Microsoft Windows Server 2008 x64 Edition Terminal Services - These tests were run to determine how HP scanners and All-in-One printers and their associated TWAIN drivers performed using... software. Citrix Presentation Server™ 4.0 • Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Terminal Services - Citrix Presentation Server™ 4.0 - Executive summary Citrix® has collaborated with HP to test select HP printers and their associated HP print drivers in -One printers and TWAIN driver versions were...
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...Business Inkjet, and Deskjet printers for Citrix to test that printing is part of the Citrix Ready program, HP performs stress testing of the driver versions mentioned in both Citrix and non-Citrix environments. All HP printers and their associated printer drivers listed in Citrix environments. 3 HP...successful to client printers and network printers. The feature testing performed by HP in the HP printer family. HP tests its print drivers with the StressPrinters tool provided by HP HP performs Windows Server/Citrix Server testing on its print drivers. Testing performed by Citrix...
...Business Inkjet, and Deskjet printers for Citrix to test that printing is part of the Citrix Ready program, HP performs stress testing of the driver versions mentioned in both Citrix and non-Citrix environments. All HP printers and their associated printer drivers listed in Citrix environments. 3 HP...successful to client printers and network printers. The feature testing performed by HP in the HP printer family. HP tests its print drivers with the StressPrinters tool provided by HP HP performs Windows Server/Citrix Server testing on its print drivers. Testing performed by Citrix...
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... 1: Minimum levels of the issue resolutions and known product limitations is included in the Windows OS HP-supported drivers* Host-based Not Supported Not Supported Not Supported Win2k/XP/2003: 5.60.1604.0 Win2003-x64: Not Supported N/A N/A Not Supported Not Supported Not Supported N/A .../XP/2003: 60.05.17.02 Win2003-x64: Use HP LaserJet 1200 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 60.061.442.00 N/A N/A Use HP LaserJet 6L PCL5e driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 4.3.2.201 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 1100 driver included in this section. These printers and...
... 1: Minimum levels of the issue resolutions and known product limitations is included in the Windows OS HP-supported drivers* Host-based Not Supported Not Supported Not Supported Win2k/XP/2003: 5.60.1604.0 Win2003-x64: Not Supported N/A N/A Not Supported Not Supported Not Supported N/A .../XP/2003: 60.05.17.02 Win2003-x64: Use HP LaserJet 1200 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 60.061.442.00 N/A N/A Use HP LaserJet 6L PCL5e driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 4.3.2.201 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 1100 driver included in this section. These printers and...
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... Not Supported Not Supported N/A Not supported PS N/A N/A Win2k/XP/2003: 4.3.2.172 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 1200 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 60.5.17.2 Win2003-x64: Use HP LaserJet 1200 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.72.53.0 Win2k/XP/2003: 61.063.461.42... Win2003-x64: Use HP LaserJet 1200 driver included in the Windows OS N/A N/A N/A Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.72.52.0 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.072.48.00 N/A 5 x64: 61.063.351.00 Win2k/XP/2003/2003- ...
... Not Supported Not Supported N/A Not supported PS N/A N/A Win2k/XP/2003: 4.3.2.172 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 1200 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 60.5.17.2 Win2003-x64: Use HP LaserJet 1200 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.72.53.0 Win2k/XP/2003: 61.063.461.42... Win2003-x64: Use HP LaserJet 1200 driver included in the Windows OS N/A N/A N/A Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.72.52.0 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.072.48.00 N/A 5 x64: 61.063.351.00 Win2k/XP/2003/2003- ...
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.../2003: 60.34.78.41 Win2003-x64: Use HP Color LaserJet 4550 driver included in the Windows OS N/A Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 60.053.45.00 6 HP printer LJ P2010/P2014 LJ P2015 CP2020/2025 LJ P2035 LJ P2050/2055 LJ 2100 LJ 2200 LJ 2300 CM2320 LJ 2410/2420/ 2430 CLJ 2500 CLJ.../2003/2003x64: 61.82.242.0 Win2k/XP/2003: 4.27.2100.410 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 2100 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 4.27.2200.410 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 2200 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 60.051.501.32 Use the UPD Win2k/XP...
.../2003: 60.34.78.41 Win2003-x64: Use HP Color LaserJet 4550 driver included in the Windows OS N/A Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 60.053.45.00 6 HP printer LJ P2010/P2014 LJ P2015 CP2020/2025 LJ P2035 LJ P2050/2055 LJ 2100 LJ 2200 LJ 2300 CM2320 LJ 2410/2420/ 2430 CLJ 2500 CLJ.../2003/2003x64: 61.82.242.0 Win2k/XP/2003: 4.27.2100.410 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 2100 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 4.27.2200.410 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 2200 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 60.051.501.32 Use the UPD Win2k/XP...
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...021 Win2003-x64: Use HP LaserJet P3005 driver Use HP LaserJet Series II driver included in the Windows OS Use HP LaserJet Series II driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 4.3.2.208 Win2003-x64: Use HP LaserJet 3200 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003:... 4.19.3300.3 Win2003-x64: Use HP LaserJet P3005 driver Win2k/XP/2003: 60.5.72.21 Win2003-x64: Use HP LaserJet P3005 driver HP-supported drivers* Host-based N/A N/A N/A N/A ...
...021 Win2003-x64: Use HP LaserJet P3005 driver Use HP LaserJet Series II driver included in the Windows OS Use HP LaserJet Series II driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 4.3.2.208 Win2003-x64: Use HP LaserJet 3200 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003:... 4.19.3300.3 Win2003-x64: Use HP LaserJet P3005 driver Win2k/XP/2003: 60.5.72.21 Win2003-x64: Use HP LaserJet P3005 driver HP-supported drivers* Host-based N/A N/A N/A N/A ...
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... N/A N/A Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.071.661.41 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.071.661.41 Win2k/XP/2003: 4.0 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 4000 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.071.661.41 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.081.32.00 Win2k/XP/2003: 4.0_1.30... Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 4000 driver included in the Windows OS 8 HP printer LJ 3390/3392 CLJ 3500 CP3505 CP3520/3525 CM3530 CLJ 3550 CLJ 3600 CLJ 3700 CLJ 3800 LJ 4000 CLJ CP4005...
... N/A N/A Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.071.661.41 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.071.661.41 Win2k/XP/2003: 4.0 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 4000 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.071.661.41 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.081.32.00 Win2k/XP/2003: 4.0_1.30... Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 4000 driver included in the Windows OS 8 HP printer LJ 3390/3392 CLJ 3500 CP3505 CP3520/3525 CM3530 CLJ 3550 CLJ 3600 CLJ 3700 CLJ 3800 LJ 4000 CLJ CP4005...
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x64: 61.081.32.00 PCL6: Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.072.51.02 Win2k/XP/2003: 4.27.4550.400 Win2003-x64: use HP Color LaserJet 4550 driver included in the Windows OS PCL5: Win2k/XP/2003: 4.27.4600.440 PCL6: Win2k/XP/2003/ 2003-x64: 61.071.661.41 Win2k/XP/2003... Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes PCL Win2k/XP/2003: 4.27.4100.441 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 4100 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.063.461.42 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.063.461.42 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61...
x64: 61.081.32.00 PCL6: Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.072.51.02 Win2k/XP/2003: 4.27.4550.400 Win2003-x64: use HP Color LaserJet 4550 driver included in the Windows OS PCL5: Win2k/XP/2003: 4.27.4600.440 PCL6: Win2k/XP/2003/ 2003-x64: 61.071.661.41 Win2k/XP/2003... Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes PCL Win2k/XP/2003: 4.27.4100.441 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 4100 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.063.461.42 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.063.461.42 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61...
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.../2003x64: 61.071.661.41 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.063.345.00 Win2k/XP/2003: 4.27.5000.400 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 5000 driver included in the Windows OS 10 x64 61.081.41.02 PCL6: Win2k/XP/2003/2003- x64 60.071.661.41 PCL6: Win2k/XP/2003/2003...- x64: 61.063.345.00 Win2k/XP/2003: 4.0 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 5000 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.071.661.41 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.063.461.42 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61...
.../2003x64: 61.071.661.41 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.063.345.00 Win2k/XP/2003: 4.27.5000.400 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 5000 driver included in the Windows OS 10 x64 61.081.41.02 PCL6: Win2k/XP/2003/2003- x64 60.071.661.41 PCL6: Win2k/XP/2003/2003...- x64: 61.063.345.00 Win2k/XP/2003: 4.0 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 5000 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.071.661.41 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.063.461.42 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61...
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...Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes PCL Win2k/XP/2003: 4.27.8150.410 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 8150 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 1.0 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 8500 driver included in the Windows OS PCL6: Win2k/XP/2003/2003- x64: 61.063.461.42 PCL5: Win2k/XP... Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.071.661.41 HP-supported drivers* Host-based N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A PS Win2k/XP/2003: 2.0.5 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 8150 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 4.01 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 8500 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 4.27.8550.440 Win2003...
...Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes PCL Win2k/XP/2003: 4.27.8150.410 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 8150 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 1.0 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 8500 driver included in the Windows OS PCL6: Win2k/XP/2003/2003- x64: 61.063.461.42 PCL5: Win2k/XP... Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.071.661.41 HP-supported drivers* Host-based N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A PS Win2k/XP/2003: 2.0.5 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 8150 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 4.01 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 8500 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 4.27.8550.440 Win2003...
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...driver included in the Windows OS HP-supported drivers* Host-based N/A * Driver versions more current than the versions stated in this table are also supported. HP has tested the HP Universal Print PCL 5 driver, HP Universal Print PCL 6 driver, and the HP universal postscript emulation driver...environment. PS Win2k/XP/2003: 4.0 Win2003-x64: Use driver included in the Windows OS HP Color printers with Edgeline Technology and supported driver versions Table 2: Minimum levels of the HP Universal Print Driver in dynamic mode is not supported in dynamic mode. Multiple ...
...driver included in the Windows OS HP-supported drivers* Host-based N/A * Driver versions more current than the versions stated in this table are also supported. HP has tested the HP Universal Print PCL 5 driver, HP Universal Print PCL 6 driver, and the HP universal postscript emulation driver...environment. PS Win2k/XP/2003: 4.0 Win2003-x64: Use driver included in the Windows OS HP Color printers with Edgeline Technology and supported driver versions Table 2: Minimum levels of the HP Universal Print Driver in dynamic mode is not supported in dynamic mode. Multiple ...
HP Printers - Supported Citrix Presentation Server environments
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... least ICA version 9.0. The Citrix server must be at least 4.0 and the client must be a 32-bit Windows client (Windows 2000, XP, Vista) with at autocreation. The HP UPD works well for mapping to black and white, no extra trays, no device-specific paper handling, etc. ... version 4.7 of the autocreated printer and configure the driver for any HP PCL or Postscript client print driver for autocreated client printers and Microsoft Windows 2000, Windows XP, or Windows Vista® clients. But the HP UPD cannot determine user settings of the driver installed on the client,...
... least ICA version 9.0. The Citrix server must be at least 4.0 and the client must be a 32-bit Windows client (Windows 2000, XP, Vista) with at autocreation. The HP UPD works well for mapping to black and white, no extra trays, no device-specific paper handling, etc. ... version 4.7 of the autocreated printer and configure the driver for any HP PCL or Postscript client print driver for autocreated client printers and Microsoft Windows 2000, Windows XP, or Windows Vista® clients. But the HP UPD cannot determine user settings of the driver installed on the client,...
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... Print Driver. When Citrix autocreates using an older HP driver, the process halts and any remaining printers fail to 4.20.x.x.) is a limitation of the server. The server must be 4.0 and the client must be a 32-bit Windows client with the 1.0.2.30 (or older) dll will ..., printer memory, and quick sets are issues affecting a server and for a workaround, rename hpbmini.dll and hpcdmc32.dll in the windows\system32\spool\drivers\w32sx86\3 directory and remove hpbmini.dll from DependentFiles registry entry in the tables above components include failed autocreation of connected users...
... Print Driver. When Citrix autocreates using an older HP driver, the process halts and any remaining printers fail to 4.20.x.x.) is a limitation of the server. The server must be 4.0 and the client must be a 32-bit Windows client with the 1.0.2.30 (or older) dll will ..., printer memory, and quick sets are issues affecting a server and for a workaround, rename hpbmini.dll and hpcdmc32.dll in the windows\system32\spool\drivers\w32sx86\3 directory and remove hpbmini.dll from DependentFiles registry entry in the tables above components include failed autocreation of connected users...
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..., or configure and session network printers? Answer: HP does not develop Microsoft Windows Server 2003 drivers for a printer and print driver is claimed by HP and provided by HP. All support for consumer based inkjet products. Question: Can I download the Windows Server 2003 driver for Deskjet, PSC, Officejet, and...client. Question: How do my autocreated printer settings not reflect the correct printer settings from citrix.com. check the LaserJet, Business Inkjet, Deskjet, and Ink-based All-in -One, mfp, or scanner connected to my client to scan to applications within my Citrix ICA...
..., or configure and session network printers? Answer: HP does not develop Microsoft Windows Server 2003 drivers for a printer and print driver is claimed by HP and provided by HP. All support for consumer based inkjet products. Question: Can I download the Windows Server 2003 driver for Deskjet, PSC, Officejet, and...client. Question: How do my autocreated printer settings not reflect the correct printer settings from citrix.com. check the LaserJet, Business Inkjet, Deskjet, and Ink-based All-in -One, mfp, or scanner connected to my client to scan to applications within my Citrix ICA...
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...' Win16 and Win32 client devices, Windows CE, DOS, and Macintosh OS platforms Test methodology An HP LaserJet/Business Inkjet/Designjet/Deskjet printer was attached to the client's locally attached HP printers. Printer model tested HP Deskjet 5440 HP LaserJet 3200 HP Designjet 4000 PostScript Driver version tested HP Deskjet 5400 Series (60.51.645.0) HP LaserJet 3200 Series PCL 5e...
...' Win16 and Win32 client devices, Windows CE, DOS, and Macintosh OS platforms Test methodology An HP LaserJet/Business Inkjet/Designjet/Deskjet printer was attached to the client's locally attached HP printers. Printer model tested HP Deskjet 5440 HP LaserJet 3200 HP Designjet 4000 PostScript Driver version tested HP Deskjet 5400 Series (60.51.645.0) HP LaserJet 3200 Series PCL 5e...
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... printer drivers installed on Citrix XenApp™ Servers have names for the printers were downloaded from the drivers used on client systems running Windows 9x. Test methodology An HP LaserJet/Business Inkjet/Designjet/Deskjet printer was installed on the client system. The printer was verified. The client connected to the Citrix XenApp™ Server...
... printer drivers installed on Citrix XenApp™ Servers have names for the printers were downloaded from the drivers used on client systems running Windows 9x. Test methodology An HP LaserJet/Business Inkjet/Designjet/Deskjet printer was installed on the client system. The printer was verified. The client connected to the Citrix XenApp™ Server...
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...the client and network printers in the Citrix XenApp™ Server session was verified and the Session printer was able to run a Windows installation CD-ROM or media for Citrix XenApp™ Server to copy the driver files and registry settings to it. You may ...Server, use the driver replication feature in the server farm. The client system connected to a Citrix XenApp™ Server that did have HP LaserJet/Business Inkjet/Designjet/Deskjet printers attached, but that the XenApp™ Server client users can print to other servers in the Management Console for the printer...
...the client and network printers in the Citrix XenApp™ Server session was verified and the Session printer was able to run a Windows installation CD-ROM or media for Citrix XenApp™ Server to copy the driver files and registry settings to it. You may ...Server, use the driver replication feature in the server farm. The client system connected to a Citrix XenApp™ Server that did have HP LaserJet/Business Inkjet/Designjet/Deskjet printers attached, but that the XenApp™ Server client users can print to other servers in the Management Console for the printer...