Serial Protocol
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Ver 1.00 Date : Oct.10.2003 1 page of 33 Specification For Serial Interface DVD- 59 0 0 DENON, Ltd. Copyright 2003 DENON Co.,Ltd.
Ver 1.00 Date : Oct.10.2003 1 page of 33 Specification For Serial Interface DVD- 59 0 0 DENON, Ltd. Copyright 2003 DENON Co.,Ltd.
Serial Protocol
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... 8 Play 43h (C) 9 Pause 44h (D) 10 Scan Play 45h (E) 11 Slow Search Play 46h (F) 12 Setup 47h (G) 13 Play Back Control 48h (H) 14 DVD Resume Stop 49h (I) 15 DVD Menu 4Ah (J) 16 Digital Interface Receive Mode (DAC MODE) 4Bh (K) Description Stand-by Under disc loading. Disc not present Stop Under disc playing... , the group ,the title or the chapter you specified does not exist. Setup mode Play Back Control scanning in process Resume stop condition DVD menu playback in process. An error occurred during playback. Playback in process Under DAC Mode Copyright 2003...
... 8 Play 43h (C) 9 Pause 44h (D) 10 Scan Play 45h (E) 11 Slow Search Play 46h (F) 12 Setup 47h (G) 13 Play Back Control 48h (H) 14 DVD Resume Stop 49h (I) 15 DVD Menu 4Ah (J) 16 Digital Interface Receive Mode (DAC MODE) 4Bh (K) Description Stand-by Under disc loading. Disc not present Stop Under disc playing... , the group ,the title or the chapter you specified does not exist. Setup mode Play Back Control scanning in process Resume stop condition DVD menu playback in process. An error occurred during playback. Playback in process Under DAC Mode Copyright 2003...
Serial Protocol
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... ) 5 Reserve ( 00h ) 6 ETX ( 03h ) 7 BCCH ( high-level ) 8 BCCL ( low-level ) 1) Answers returned byte \ bit 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 0 STX ( 02h ) 1 Reply code ( ' SP ') 2 Answer code 3~ 16 Master player type "DENON DVD-3900" (ASCII CODE) 17 ETX ( 03h ) 18 BCCH ( high-level ) 19 BCCL ( low-level ) 2) Special condition • When power condition is set to be compatible... is "STANDBY", can accept "OPEN /CLOSE KEY", "PLAY KEY", and "POWER ON KEY" on the front panel and on from the standby state. Copyright 2003 DENON Co.,Ltd.
... ) 5 Reserve ( 00h ) 6 ETX ( 03h ) 7 BCCH ( high-level ) 8 BCCL ( low-level ) 1) Answers returned byte \ bit 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 0 STX ( 02h ) 1 Reply code ( ' SP ') 2 Answer code 3~ 16 Master player type "DENON DVD-3900" (ASCII CODE) 17 ETX ( 03h ) 18 BCCH ( high-level ) 19 BCCL ( low-level ) 2) Special condition • When power condition is set to be compatible... is "STANDBY", can accept "OPEN /CLOSE KEY", "PLAY KEY", and "POWER ON KEY" on the front panel and on from the standby state. Copyright 2003 DENON Co.,Ltd.
Serial Protocol
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...BCCH ( high-level ) 25 BCCL ( low-level ) code (*1) Disc type code (*2) Audio format code (*3) Audio channel code (*4) Dialog Code Disc Type 31h (1) DVD VIDEO 32h (2) DVD AUDIO 33h (3) VCD 34h (4) CD-DA 35h (5) MP3 36h (6) UNKNOWN 37h (7) SACD Code Audio Format 31h (1) DOLBY DIGITAL 32h (2) DTS 33h (3) MPEG ...ch 4.1 ch 5 ch 5.1 ch 6 ch 3Bh (;) L /R (CD/VCD/MP3) 36h (6) ESP 37h (7) NLD 38h (8) CHI 39h (9) RUS 3Ah( : ) KOR 3Bh( ; ) UNKNOW N Copyright 2003 DENON Co.,Ltd. Ver 1.00 Date : Oct.10.2003 14 page of 33 1.9.3 Request System Status This status requests the...
...BCCH ( high-level ) 25 BCCL ( low-level ) code (*1) Disc type code (*2) Audio format code (*3) Audio channel code (*4) Dialog Code Disc Type 31h (1) DVD VIDEO 32h (2) DVD AUDIO 33h (3) VCD 34h (4) CD-DA 35h (5) MP3 36h (6) UNKNOWN 37h (7) SACD Code Audio Format 31h (1) DOLBY DIGITAL 32h (2) DTS 33h (3) MPEG ...ch 4.1 ch 5 ch 5.1 ch 6 ch 3Bh (;) L /R (CD/VCD/MP3) 36h (6) ESP 37h (7) NLD 38h (8) CHI 39h (9) RUS 3Ah( : ) KOR 3Bh( ; ) UNKNOW N Copyright 2003 DENON Co.,Ltd. Ver 1.00 Date : Oct.10.2003 14 page of 33 1.9.3 Request System Status This status requests the...
Serial Protocol
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Ver 1.00 Date : Oct.10.2003 16 page of 33 (*5) Subtitle code (*6) Angle code Code Subtitle Code Angle 31h (1) JPN 31h (1) 1 32h (2) ENG 32h (2) 2 33h (3) 34h (4) 35h (5) 36h (6) 37h (7) 38h (8) 39h (9) FRA DEU ITA ESP NLD CHI RUS 33h (3) 3 34h (4) 4 35h (5) 5 36h (6) 6 37h (7) 7 38h (8) 8 39h (9) 9 3Ah ( : ) KOR 3Bh (; ) UNKNOW N (*7) Play mode code (*8) Time Mode code Code Play Mode Code Time Mode 31h (1) NORMAL 31h (1) SINGLE ELAPSED 32h (2) PROGRAM 32h (2) SINGLE REMAIN 33h (3) RANDOM 33h (3) TOTAL ELAPSED 34h (4) TOTAL REMAIN 35h (5) CHAPTER ELAPSED 36h (6) CHAPTER ...
Ver 1.00 Date : Oct.10.2003 16 page of 33 (*5) Subtitle code (*6) Angle code Code Subtitle Code Angle 31h (1) JPN 31h (1) 1 32h (2) ENG 32h (2) 2 33h (3) 34h (4) 35h (5) 36h (6) 37h (7) 38h (8) 39h (9) FRA DEU ITA ESP NLD CHI RUS 33h (3) 3 34h (4) 4 35h (5) 5 36h (6) 6 37h (7) 7 38h (8) 8 39h (9) 9 3Ah ( : ) KOR 3Bh (; ) UNKNOW N (*7) Play mode code (*8) Time Mode code Code Play Mode Code Time Mode 31h (1) NORMAL 31h (1) SINGLE ELAPSED 32h (2) PROGRAM 32h (2) SINGLE REMAIN 33h (3) RANDOM 33h (3) TOTAL ELAPSED 34h (4) TOTAL REMAIN 35h (5) CHAPTER ELAPSED 36h (6) CHAPTER ...
Serial Protocol
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Ver 1.00 Date : Oct.10.2003 23 page of 33 Operation matrix DISC DVD-VIDEO /DVD-AUDIO /MP3 /VideoCD Now Operation Slow /Search command '+ ' '- ' FF Playing FR 2X 4X 6X 8X 16X 32X 64X ... FF 2X FF 2X FF 2X FR 2X FR 2X FR 4X FR 6X FR 8X FR 16X FR 32X FR 64X FR 2X DISC DVD-VIDEO Pausing SLOW Others 1 /8 FWD 1 /6 1 /4 1 /2 1 /8 RVS 1 /6 1 /4 1 /2 SLOW FWD 1 /8 SLOW RVS 1 /8 SLOW FWD 1 /6 SLOW FWD 1 /4 SLOW FWD 1 /2 SLOW RVS 1 /8 SLOW FWD 1 /8 SLOW... FR 2X VideoCD SLOW FWD1 /6 ignore SLOW FWD1 /4 SLOW FWD1 /2 SLOW FWD1 /6 ignore ignore ignore Copyright 2003 DENON Co.,Ltd.
Ver 1.00 Date : Oct.10.2003 23 page of 33 Operation matrix DISC DVD-VIDEO /DVD-AUDIO /MP3 /VideoCD Now Operation Slow /Search command '+ ' '- ' FF Playing FR 2X 4X 6X 8X 16X 32X 64X ... FF 2X FF 2X FF 2X FR 2X FR 2X FR 4X FR 6X FR 8X FR 16X FR 32X FR 64X FR 2X DISC DVD-VIDEO Pausing SLOW Others 1 /8 FWD 1 /6 1 /4 1 /2 1 /8 RVS 1 /6 1 /4 1 /2 SLOW FWD 1 /8 SLOW RVS 1 /8 SLOW FWD 1 /6 SLOW FWD 1 /4 SLOW FWD 1 /2 SLOW RVS 1 /8 SLOW FWD 1 /8 SLOW... FR 2X VideoCD SLOW FWD1 /6 ignore SLOW FWD1 /4 SLOW FWD1 /2 SLOW FWD1 /6 ignore ignore ignore Copyright 2003 DENON Co.,Ltd.
Serial Protocol
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Copyright 2003 DENON Co.,Ltd. byte \ bit 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 0 STX ( 02h ) 1 Command code ( ' F ') 2 Reserve ( 00h ) 3 Reserve ( 00h ) 4 Reserve ( 00h ) 5 Reserve ( 00h ) 6 ETX ( 03h ) 7 BCCH ( high-level ) 8 BCCL ( low-level ) 1) Answers ... code ( ' F ') 2 Answer code 3 ETX ( 03h ) 4 BCCH ( high-level ) 5 BCCL ( low-level ) 2) Special condition • This command is valid only when disc type code is DVD-Video (1) or DVD-Audio (2) . • When status code is 4Bh (DIR mode) , this command is not accepted. Ver 1.00 Date : Oct.10.2003 25 page of 33...
Copyright 2003 DENON Co.,Ltd. byte \ bit 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 0 STX ( 02h ) 1 Command code ( ' F ') 2 Reserve ( 00h ) 3 Reserve ( 00h ) 4 Reserve ( 00h ) 5 Reserve ( 00h ) 6 ETX ( 03h ) 7 BCCH ( high-level ) 8 BCCL ( low-level ) 1) Answers ... code ( ' F ') 2 Answer code 3 ETX ( 03h ) 4 BCCH ( high-level ) 5 BCCL ( low-level ) 2) Special condition • This command is valid only when disc type code is DVD-Video (1) or DVD-Audio (2) . • When status code is 4Bh (DIR mode) , this command is not accepted. Ver 1.00 Date : Oct.10.2003 25 page of 33...
Serial Protocol
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Ver 1.00 Date : Oct.10.2003 1.9.11 Menu This plays root menu in the DVD disc. byte \ bit 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 STX (02h) 1 Command code ( 'G ' ) 2 Reserve (00h) 3 Reserve (00h) 4 Reserve (00h) 5 Reserve (00h) 6 ETX (03h) 7 BCCH (high-level) 8 BCCL (low-level) 1) Answers ... 1 Reply code ( 'G ' ) 2 Answer code 3 ETX (03h) 4 BCCH (high-level) 5 BCCL (low-level) 2) Special condition • This command is valid only when disc type code is DVD-Video (1) . • When status code is 4Bh (DIR mode) , this command is not accepted. 26 page of 33 0 0 Copyright 2003...
Ver 1.00 Date : Oct.10.2003 1.9.11 Menu This plays root menu in the DVD disc. byte \ bit 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 STX (02h) 1 Command code ( 'G ' ) 2 Reserve (00h) 3 Reserve (00h) 4 Reserve (00h) 5 Reserve (00h) 6 ETX (03h) 7 BCCH (high-level) 8 BCCL (low-level) 1) Answers ... 1 Reply code ( 'G ' ) 2 Answer code 3 ETX (03h) 4 BCCH (high-level) 5 BCCL (low-level) 2) Special condition • This command is valid only when disc type code is DVD-Video (1) . • When status code is 4Bh (DIR mode) , this command is not accepted. 26 page of 33 0 0 Copyright 2003...
Serial Protocol
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Ver 1.00 Date : Oct.10.2003 1.9.13 Audio This selects dialog in the DVD disc. 28 page of 33 byte \ bit 7 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 STX ( 02h ) Command code ( ' | ') Audio skip code ( Forward : ' + ' / Reverse : ' - ') Reserve (00h) Reserve (00h) Reserve (00h) ETX ( 03h ) BCCH ( ... 3Bh (;) L/R (CD /VCD /MP3) 3Bh ( ; ) UNKNOWN 3Ch () UNKNOWN 2) Special condition • When status code is 4Bh (DIR mode) , this command is not accepted. Copyright 2003 DENON Co.,Ltd.
Ver 1.00 Date : Oct.10.2003 1.9.13 Audio This selects dialog in the DVD disc. 28 page of 33 byte \ bit 7 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 STX ( 02h ) Command code ( ' | ') Audio skip code ( Forward : ' + ' / Reverse : ' - ') Reserve (00h) Reserve (00h) Reserve (00h) ETX ( 03h ) BCCH ( ... 3Bh (;) L/R (CD /VCD /MP3) 3Bh ( ; ) UNKNOWN 3Ch () UNKNOWN 2) Special condition • When status code is 4Bh (DIR mode) , this command is not accepted. Copyright 2003 DENON Co.,Ltd.
Serial Protocol
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... code is 4Bh (DIR mode) , this command is not accepted. • When the value of 33 1.9.14 Subtitle This selects subtitle language in the DVD disc. Copyright 2003 DENON Co.,Ltd. Ver 1.00 Date : Oct.10.2003 29 page of the "current subtitle stream channel( both digit10 and digit1 )" is zero, it...
... code is 4Bh (DIR mode) , this command is not accepted. • When the value of 33 1.9.14 Subtitle This selects subtitle language in the DVD disc. Copyright 2003 DENON Co.,Ltd. Ver 1.00 Date : Oct.10.2003 29 page of the "current subtitle stream channel( both digit10 and digit1 )" is zero, it...
Serial Protocol
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Ver 1.00 Date : Oct.10.2003 1.9.15 Angle This selects angle in the DVD disc. byte \ bit 7 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 6 5 4 3 2 STX ( 02h ) Command code ( ' K ') Angle skip code ( Forward : ' + ' / Reverse : Reserve (00h) Reserve (00h) Reserve (00h) ETX ( 03h ) BCCH ( high-level ) BCCL ( low-...-level ) 7 BCCL ( low-level ) 2) Special condition • When status code is 4Bh (DIR mode) , this command is not accepted. 30 page of 33 0 0 Copyright 2003 DENON Co.,Ltd.
Ver 1.00 Date : Oct.10.2003 1.9.15 Angle This selects angle in the DVD disc. byte \ bit 7 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 6 5 4 3 2 STX ( 02h ) Command code ( ' K ') Angle skip code ( Forward : ' + ' / Reverse : Reserve (00h) Reserve (00h) Reserve (00h) ETX ( 03h ) BCCH ( high-level ) BCCL ( low-...-level ) 7 BCCL ( low-level ) 2) Special condition • When status code is 4Bh (DIR mode) , this command is not accepted. 30 page of 33 0 0 Copyright 2003 DENON Co.,Ltd.
Literature/Product Sheet
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...horizontal, and diagonal directions at high speed. The DVD-5910's video circuitry employs the Dual Discrete Video Circuit (DDVC), a proprietary DENON technology that DENON has developed for the first time in the DVD-5910, accurately detects and corrects the directionality of an ...Correction feature that enhances the reproducibility of advanced video technologies, and DENON. This player represents the culmination of their particular applications. To support these technologies, the DVD-5910 incorporates an original drive mechanism and vibration-resistant chassis construction that ...
...horizontal, and diagonal directions at high speed. The DVD-5910's video circuitry employs the Dual Discrete Video Circuit (DDVC), a proprietary DENON technology that DENON has developed for the first time in the DVD-5910, accurately detects and corrects the directionality of an ...Correction feature that enhances the reproducibility of advanced video technologies, and DENON. This player represents the culmination of their particular applications. To support these technologies, the DVD-5910 incorporates an original drive mechanism and vibration-resistant chassis construction that ...
Literature/Product Sheet
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... data along the time axis, and up-converted sampling is a audio codec developed by Microsoft. Thorough vibration-resistant construction • DENON original high-accuracy drive mechanism ■ Other Features • Supports playback of a wide variety of discs • Playback frequency ranges... among circuit blocks - Up to individual preferences. • Simultaneous output through high-grade HDMI and DVI digital video interfaces The DVD-5910 supports the HDMI and DVI digital video interfaces, and simultaneous output through the HDMI (*1), a single cable for the digital transmission...
... data along the time axis, and up-converted sampling is a audio codec developed by Microsoft. Thorough vibration-resistant construction • DENON original high-accuracy drive mechanism ■ Other Features • Supports playback of a wide variety of discs • Playback frequency ranges... among circuit blocks - Up to individual preferences. • Simultaneous output through high-grade HDMI and DVI digital video interfaces The DVD-5910 supports the HDMI and DVI digital video interfaces, and simultaneous output through the HDMI (*1), a single cable for the digital transmission...
Owners Manual - English
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... OPEN / CLOSE PLAY STOP STILL / PAUSE HDMI / DVI SELECT FORMAT VIDEO MODE SUPER AUDIO CD SET UP PURE DIRECT SELECT PUSH ENTER DVD AUDIO-VIDEO / SUPER AUDIO CD PLAYER DVD-5910 POWER OFF POWER ON HDMI/DVI SELECT FORMAT NTSC/PAL OPEN/ CLOSE SUPER AUDIO CD SETUP PROGRAM /DIRECT CLEAR SEARCH MODE CALL...
... OPEN / CLOSE PLAY STOP STILL / PAUSE HDMI / DVI SELECT FORMAT VIDEO MODE SUPER AUDIO CD SET UP PURE DIRECT SELECT PUSH ENTER DVD AUDIO-VIDEO / SUPER AUDIO CD PLAYER DVD-5910 POWER OFF POWER ON HDMI/DVI SELECT FORMAT NTSC/PAL OPEN/ CLOSE SUPER AUDIO CD SETUP PROGRAM /DIRECT CLEAR SEARCH MODE CALL...
Owners Manual - English
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... and used . Do not open the top cover In order to provide reasonable protection against harmful interference in this type of your DENON DEALER. 3. DVD-5910 Serial No. PRODUCT This product complies with the limits for help. • FOR CANADA MODEL ONLY CAUTION TO PREVENT ELECTRIC SHOCK...allow you to constitute a risk of the FCC Rules. However, there is recommended to remove by holding the plug attachment and not by DENON may cause undesired operation. 2. If problems occur, contact your set shown on a circuit different from wall outlet, be of sufficient magnitude...
... and used . Do not open the top cover In order to provide reasonable protection against harmful interference in this type of your DENON DEALER. 3. DVD-5910 Serial No. PRODUCT This product complies with the limits for help. • FOR CANADA MODEL ONLY CAUTION TO PREVENT ELECTRIC SHOCK...allow you to constitute a risk of the FCC Rules. However, there is recommended to remove by holding the plug attachment and not by DENON may cause undesired operation. 2. If problems occur, contact your set shown on a circuit different from wall outlet, be of sufficient magnitude...
Owners Manual - English
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ENGLISH FRONT PANEL !1 !2 !3 !4 !5 ON / STANDBY qw e REAR PANEL r !6!7 !8 !9 @0 @1 @2 OPEN / CLOSE PLAY STOP STILL / PAUSE HDMI / DVI SELECT FORMAT VIDEO MODE SUPER AUDIO CD SET UP PURE DIRECT SELECT PUSH ENTER DVD AUDIO-VIDEO / SUPER AUDIO CD PLAYER DVD-5910 uo t y i !0 @3 @4 @5 @6 @7 @8 @9 #0 #1 #2 #3#4 #5#6 #7 3
ENGLISH FRONT PANEL !1 !2 !3 !4 !5 ON / STANDBY qw e REAR PANEL r !6!7 !8 !9 @0 @1 @2 OPEN / CLOSE PLAY STOP STILL / PAUSE HDMI / DVI SELECT FORMAT VIDEO MODE SUPER AUDIO CD SET UP PURE DIRECT SELECT PUSH ENTER DVD AUDIO-VIDEO / SUPER AUDIO CD PLAYER DVD-5910 uo t y i !0 @3 @4 @5 @6 @7 @8 @9 #0 #1 #2 #3#4 #5#6 #7 3
Owners Manual - English
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In addition, other multi-channel audio signals. 9. The DVD-5910 is used for more natural outline correction DENON has developed an outline correction circuit using . 2. In addition, DENON's original analog waveform reproduction technology, "AL24 Processing PLUS", is HDMI Ver. 1.1 compatible. (1) HDMI connector Digital video signals are transferred in conjunction with upconversion sampling. Newly ...
In addition, other multi-channel audio signals. 9. The DVD-5910 is used for more natural outline correction DENON has developed an outline correction circuit using . 2. In addition, DENON's original analog waveform reproduction technology, "AL24 Processing PLUS", is HDMI Ver. 1.1 compatible. (1) HDMI connector Digital video signals are transferred in conjunction with upconversion sampling. Newly ...
Owners Manual - English
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...analog power unit and digital power unit) are structurally isolated, in sound quality. 12. Thorough vibration-resistant design (1) Mechanism using the DVD-5910 in combination with no loss in a design that greatly reduces the distortion occurring at the time of Microsoft Corporation, Inc. 8 ...; playback function (NOTE 9) Windows Media™ CDs can be played on the DVD-5910. (3) Multiple audio function Selection of up to 8 audio languages. (The number of languages offered differs from DVD to DVD.) (4) Multiple subtitle function Selection of up to 32 subtitle languages. (The number ...
...analog power unit and digital power unit) are structurally isolated, in sound quality. 12. Thorough vibration-resistant design (1) Mechanism using the DVD-5910 in combination with no loss in a design that greatly reduces the distortion occurring at the time of Microsoft Corporation, Inc. 8 ...; playback function (NOTE 9) Windows Media™ CDs can be played on the DVD-5910. (3) Multiple audio function Selection of up to 8 audio languages. (The number of languages offered differs from DVD to DVD.) (4) Multiple subtitle function Selection of up to 32 subtitle languages. (The number ...
Owners Manual - English
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...". NOTE 4: According to the Region Management Information that have not be finalized cannot be played. In this DVD player is recorded on the DVD-5910: • DVDs with playback control can be used on the disc labels or jackets. The Region number for this manual, ...; Playback control (video CDs) Video CDs including the words "playback control" on the disc or jacket are equipped with "CPRM". NOTE 2: The DVD-5910 cannot play DVD-R, -RW, +R and +RW discs recorded in the "VR" mode or with a function for selecting the desired position, displaying information, etc.,...
...". NOTE 4: According to the Region Management Information that have not be finalized cannot be played. In this DVD player is recorded on the DVD-5910: • DVDs with playback control can be used on the disc labels or jackets. The Region number for this manual, ...; Playback control (video CDs) Video CDs including the words "playback control" on the disc or jacket are equipped with "CPRM". NOTE 2: The DVD-5910 cannot play DVD-R, -RW, +R and +RW discs recorded in the "VR" mode or with a function for selecting the desired position, displaying information, etc.,...
Owners Manual - English
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...from the middle outwards. ENGLISH ENGLISH 3 CAUTIONS ON HANDLING DISCS Discs Only the discs including the marks shown on page 9 can be played on the DVD-5910. Cleaning Discs 2 Fingerprints or dirt on the disc may slip out of another may result in damage or scratch the discs. • Load 8...be played on Storing Discs • Always eject discs after playing them. • Keep discs in their cases to wipe off . Cautions on the DVD-5910. CAUTIONS ON INSTALLATION Note: For heat dispersal, do not use discs on the surface if the disc is closing. • Do not place anything ...
...from the middle outwards. ENGLISH ENGLISH 3 CAUTIONS ON HANDLING DISCS Discs Only the discs including the marks shown on page 9 can be played on the DVD-5910. Cleaning Discs 2 Fingerprints or dirt on the disc may slip out of another may result in damage or scratch the discs. • Load 8...be played on Storing Discs • Always eject discs after playing them. • Keep discs in their cases to wipe off . Cautions on the DVD-5910. CAUTIONS ON INSTALLATION Note: For heat dispersal, do not use discs on the surface if the disc is closing. • Do not place anything ...