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... in Citrix environments 12 The difference between the Citrix and HP UPDs 13 Business Inkjet printers and supported driver versions 14 HP Deskjet printers and supported driver versions 15 LIDIL HP Deskjet printers...18 Using HP ink-based All-in-One and Photosmart printers 19 HP Designjets and supported driver versions 22 Resolved issues...22 Unresolved issues ...24 Microsoft...
... in Citrix environments 12 The difference between the Citrix and HP UPDs 13 Business Inkjet printers and supported driver versions 14 HP Deskjet printers and supported driver versions 15 LIDIL HP Deskjet printers...18 Using HP ink-based All-in-One and Photosmart printers 19 HP Designjets and supported driver versions 22 Resolved issues...22 Unresolved issues ...24 Microsoft...
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...8482; 5.0 test results Versions of the printers tested by HP in Citrix environments, explains the printer tests performed by Citrix, identifies which HP scanners and All-in -One printers and their associated TWAIN drivers performed using the standard printer and printer-related features tests that... Server client software. What's new • The table of HP supported printers and drivers has been updated • Content updated with HP to test select HP scanners and All-in-One printers and their associated printer drivers performed using the scan-related feature tests that Citrix uses to...
...8482; 5.0 test results Versions of the printers tested by HP in Citrix environments, explains the printer tests performed by Citrix, identifies which HP scanners and All-in -One printers and their associated TWAIN drivers performed using the standard printer and printer-related features tests that... Server client software. What's new • The table of HP supported printers and drivers has been updated • Content updated with HP to test select HP scanners and All-in-One printers and their associated printer drivers performed using the scan-related feature tests that Citrix uses to...
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... in this document are autocreated concurrently. The feature testing performed by HP is confident in the stability and functionality of its print drivers. HP also employs other HP printers. Testing performed by HP HP performs Windows Server/Citrix Server testing on its print drivers and is very similar to the Citrix Interoperability Test Kit for Citrix to...
... in this document are autocreated concurrently. The feature testing performed by HP is confident in the stability and functionality of its print drivers. HP also employs other HP printers. Testing performed by HP HP performs Windows Server/Citrix Server testing on its print drivers and is very similar to the Citrix Interoperability Test Kit for Citrix to...
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... Win2k/XP/2003: 5.60.1604.0 Win2003-x64: Not Supported N/A N/A Not Supported Not Supported Not Supported N/A PS N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A Win2k/XP/2003/2003- A description of HP-supported drivers in the Citrix environment HP printer LJ 1000 LJ P1005 LJ P1006 LJ 1010/1012 LJ 1015 CLJ CM1015/ 1017 mfp LJ 1018 LJ 1020 LJ 1022 LJ...
... Win2k/XP/2003: 5.60.1604.0 Win2003-x64: Not Supported N/A N/A Not Supported Not Supported Not Supported N/A PS N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A Win2k/XP/2003/2003- A description of HP-supported drivers in the Citrix environment HP printer LJ 1000 LJ P1005 LJ P1006 LJ 1010/1012 LJ 1015 CLJ CM1015/ 1017 mfp LJ 1018 LJ 1020 LJ 1022 LJ...
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... Not Supported Not Supported Not Supported N/A Not supported PS N/A N/A Win2k/XP/2003: 4.3.2.172 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 1200 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 60.5.17.2 Win2003-x64: Use HP LaserJet 1200 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.72.53.0 Win2k/XP/2003: 61.063....461.42 Win2003-x64: Use HP LaserJet 1200 driver included in the Windows OS N/A N/A N/A Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.72.52.0 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.072.48.00 N/A 5 x64: 61.72.52.0 Win2k/...
... Not Supported Not Supported Not Supported N/A Not supported PS N/A N/A Win2k/XP/2003: 4.3.2.172 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 1200 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 60.5.17.2 Win2003-x64: Use HP LaserJet 1200 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.72.53.0 Win2k/XP/2003: 61.063....461.42 Win2003-x64: Use HP LaserJet 1200 driver included in the Windows OS N/A N/A N/A Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.72.52.0 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.072.48.00 N/A 5 x64: 61.72.52.0 Win2k/...
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...XP/2003/2003x64: 61.82.242.0 Win2k/XP/2003: 4.27.2100.410 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 2100 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 4.27.2200.410 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 2200 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 60.051.501.32 Use the UPD... in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 60.34.78.41 Win2003-x64: Use HP Color LaserJet 4550 driver included in the Windows OS N/A Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 60.053.45.00 HP-supported drivers* Host-based N/A N/A N/A Not Supported N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A Not supported N/A PS N/A Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 60.063.461.42 Use the UPD ...
...XP/2003/2003x64: 61.82.242.0 Win2k/XP/2003: 4.27.2100.410 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 2100 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 4.27.2200.410 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 2200 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 60.051.501.32 Use the UPD... in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 60.34.78.41 Win2003-x64: Use HP Color LaserJet 4550 driver included in the Windows OS N/A Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 60.053.45.00 HP-supported drivers* Host-based N/A N/A N/A Not Supported N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A Not supported N/A PS N/A Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 60.063.461.42 Use the UPD ...
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... Windows OS Use HP LaserJet Series II driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 4.3.2.208 Win2003-x64: Use HP LaserJet 3200 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 4.19.3300.3 Win2003-x64: Use HP LaserJet P3005 driver Win2k/XP/2003: 60.5.72.21 Win2003-x64: Use HP LaserJet P3005 driver HP-supported drivers* Host-based N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A PS...
... Windows OS Use HP LaserJet Series II driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 4.3.2.208 Win2003-x64: Use HP LaserJet 3200 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 4.19.3300.3 Win2003-x64: Use HP LaserJet P3005 driver Win2k/XP/2003: 60.5.72.21 Win2003-x64: Use HP LaserJet P3005 driver HP-supported drivers* Host-based N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A PS...
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.../XP/2003/2003x64: 61.071.661.41 Win2k/XP/2003: 4.27.4000.400 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 4050 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.071.661.41 PCL5: Win2k/XP/2003/... 61.063.461.41 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A PS Win2k/XP/2003: 60.051.564.021 Win2003-x64: Use HP LaserJet P3005 driver N/A Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.063.346.00 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.082.41.00 Use the UPD N/A N/A...071.661.41 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.071.661.41 Win2k/XP/2003: 4.0 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 4000 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.071.661.41 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61....
.../XP/2003/2003x64: 61.071.661.41 Win2k/XP/2003: 4.27.4000.400 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 4050 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.071.661.41 PCL5: Win2k/XP/2003/... 61.063.461.41 N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A PS Win2k/XP/2003: 60.051.564.021 Win2003-x64: Use HP LaserJet P3005 driver N/A Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.063.346.00 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.082.41.00 Use the UPD N/A N/A...071.661.41 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.071.661.41 Win2k/XP/2003: 4.0 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 4000 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.071.661.41 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61....
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... environment Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes PCL Win2k/XP/2003: 4.27.4100.441 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 4100 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.063.461.42 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.063.461.42 Win2k/XP/2003....071.661.41 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.071.661.41 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.071.661.41 HP-supported drivers* Host-based N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A PS Win2k/XP/2003: 3.0.8 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 4100 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.063.461.42 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.063...
... environment Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes PCL Win2k/XP/2003: 4.27.4100.441 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 4100 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.063.461.42 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.063.461.42 Win2k/XP/2003....071.661.41 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.071.661.41 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.071.661.41 HP-supported drivers* Host-based N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A PS Win2k/XP/2003: 3.0.8 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 4100 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.063.461.42 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.063...
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....081.41.02 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.081.41.02 Win2k/XP/2003: 4.0 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 8000 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 4.0 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 8100 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.071.661.41 PCL6: Win2k/XP/2003/2003....661.41 Win2k/XP/2003/2003- x64 60.071.661.41 PCL6: Win2k/XP/2003/2003- HP printer CLJ 4730mfp CLJ CM4730mfp LJ 5000 LJ M5025/ M5035 mfp LJ 5100 LJ 5200/5200L LJ 5500 CLJ 5550 CP6015 CM6030/CM6040 LJ 8000 LJ 8100 Supported in Citrix environment Yes Yes Yes Yes...
....081.41.02 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.081.41.02 Win2k/XP/2003: 4.0 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 8000 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 4.0 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 8100 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.071.661.41 PCL6: Win2k/XP/2003/2003....661.41 Win2k/XP/2003/2003- x64 60.071.661.41 PCL6: Win2k/XP/2003/2003- HP printer CLJ 4730mfp CLJ CM4730mfp LJ 5000 LJ M5025/ M5035 mfp LJ 5100 LJ 5200/5200L LJ 5500 CLJ 5550 CP6015 CM6030/CM6040 LJ 8000 LJ 8100 Supported in Citrix environment Yes Yes Yes Yes...
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.../2003/2003x64: 61.071.661.41 PCL5 Win2k/XP/2003: 60.33.176.32 PCL6 Win2k/XP/2003: 60.33.189.21 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 9040 driver PCL5 Win2k/XP/2003: 60.33.176.32 PCL6 Win2k/XP/2003: 60.33.189.21 Win2003-x64: use...: 61.071.661.41 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.071.661.41 HP-supported drivers* Host-based N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A PS Win2k/XP/2003: 2.0.5 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 8150 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 4.01 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 8500 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 4.27.8550.440 Win2003...
.../2003/2003x64: 61.071.661.41 PCL5 Win2k/XP/2003: 60.33.176.32 PCL6 Win2k/XP/2003: 60.33.189.21 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 9040 driver PCL5 Win2k/XP/2003: 60.33.176.32 PCL6 Win2k/XP/2003: 60.33.189.21 Win2003-x64: use...: 61.071.661.41 Win2k/XP/2003/2003x64: 61.071.661.41 HP-supported drivers* Host-based N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A PS Win2k/XP/2003: 2.0.5 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 8150 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 4.01 Win2003-x64: use HP LaserJet 8500 driver included in the Windows OS Win2k/XP/2003: 4.27.8550.440 Win2003...
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... port bound to search for all autocreated printers or redirected printers. HP has tested the HP Universal Print PCL 5 driver, HP Universal Print PCL 6 driver, and the HP universal postscript emulation driver in Citrix and Terminal Server environments. Dynamic mode allows a user to the HP Universal Print Driver queue if installed in the Citrix management tools. As a result, dynamic...
... port bound to search for all autocreated printers or redirected printers. HP has tested the HP Universal Print PCL 5 driver, HP Universal Print PCL 6 driver, and the HP universal postscript emulation driver in Citrix and Terminal Server environments. Dynamic mode allows a user to the HP Universal Print Driver queue if installed in the Citrix management tools. As a result, dynamic...
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... embedded operating systems. The Citrix UPD has the ability to the user's profile when the user logs out. Discrete print drivers must be at autocreation. The HP UPD works well for communication of print settings and rendering of the client printers from the client printer, such as print ...on the client, the UPD PCL driver defaults to any client, including thin clients with client printers that are not read during autocreation. But the HP UPD cannot determine user settings of the print jobs locally. Client printer settings not ...
... embedded operating systems. The Citrix UPD has the ability to the user's profile when the user logs out. Discrete print drivers must be at autocreation. The HP UPD works well for communication of print settings and rendering of the client printers from the client printer, such as print ...on the client, the UPD PCL driver defaults to any client, including thin clients with client printers that are not read during autocreation. But the HP UPD cannot determine user settings of the print jobs locally. Client printer settings not ...
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A description of the issue resolutions and known product limitations is included in Citrix environment Not tested HP-supported drivers* PCL Host-based PS Use OS driver N/A N/A Not tested Yes Yes Not Supported Not tested Not tested MetaFrame 1.8 only Not tested ...PCL5/PS Ver 1.0 14 Business Inkjet printers and supported driver versions The table below identifies the HP Business Inkjet printers and associated drivers that are supported in Citrix environments by HP. These printers and printer drivers have been tested by HP. HP printer Deskjet 310/320/340 (Monochrome) Deskjet 350C ...
A description of the issue resolutions and known product limitations is included in Citrix environment Not tested HP-supported drivers* PCL Host-based PS Use OS driver N/A N/A Not tested Yes Yes Not Supported Not tested Not tested MetaFrame 1.8 only Not tested ...PCL5/PS Ver 1.0 14 Business Inkjet printers and supported driver versions The table below identifies the HP Business Inkjet printers and associated drivers that are supported in Citrix environments by HP. These printers and printer drivers have been tested by HP. HP printer Deskjet 310/320/340 (Monochrome) Deskjet 350C ...
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.... N/A HP Deskjet printers and supported driver versions HP recognizes the need for small inexpensive printing solutions for Citrix environments: • For small office applications ( HP printer BIJ 2800 Supported in Citrix environment Yes PCL Ver 1.0 HP-supported drivers* Host-... Yes PCL3 Ver 1.1 N/A N/A Deskjet 9800 Series Yes PCL3 Ver 1.0 N/A N/A HP Officejet Pro K550 Yes series PCL3 Ver 1.0 N/A N/A HP Officejet Pro K850 Yes series PCL3 Ver 1.0 N/A * Driver versions more current than the versions stated in Citrix environments compared to consumer Deskjets.
.... N/A HP Deskjet printers and supported driver versions HP recognizes the need for small inexpensive printing solutions for Citrix environments: • For small office applications ( HP printer BIJ 2800 Supported in Citrix environment Yes PCL Ver 1.0 HP-supported drivers* Host-... Yes PCL3 Ver 1.1 N/A N/A Deskjet 9800 Series Yes PCL3 Ver 1.0 N/A N/A HP Officejet Pro K550 Yes series PCL3 Ver 1.0 N/A N/A HP Officejet Pro K850 Yes series PCL3 Ver 1.0 N/A * Driver versions more current than the versions stated in Citrix environments compared to consumer Deskjets.
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... Yes Yes Yes HP-supported drivers* PCL Host-based Use OS Driver N/A Use OS Driver W2K/XP: OS Driver Use OS Driver Use OS Driver W2K/XP: OS Driver Use OS Driver W2K/XP: OS Driver W2K/XP: OS Driver W2K/XP: OS Driver W2K/XP: OS Driver Ver 4.3 Use OS Driver Use OS Driver W2K/XP: OS Driver W2K/XP: OS Driver Use OS driver or Ver...
... Yes Yes Yes HP-supported drivers* PCL Host-based Use OS Driver N/A Use OS Driver W2K/XP: OS Driver Use OS Driver Use OS Driver W2K/XP: OS Driver Use OS Driver W2K/XP: OS Driver W2K/XP: OS Driver W2K/XP: OS Driver W2K/XP: OS Driver Ver 4.3 Use OS Driver Use OS Driver W2K/XP: OS Driver W2K/XP: OS Driver Use OS driver or Ver...
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... Deskjet 5150 series Supported in Citrix environment Yes HP-supported drivers* PCL Host-based Ver. 8.4.5 or Commercial slim driver N/A Deskjet 5440 series V.60.051.645 or Yes N/A Commercial slim driver Deskjet 5550/ 5551 Ver. 7.1.0 Yes or N/A Commercial slim driver Deskjet 5650 series Ver. 8.4.5 Yes or N/A Commercial slim driver Deskjet 5740 series Ver. 10.4.0 Basic Yes features...
... Deskjet 5150 series Supported in Citrix environment Yes HP-supported drivers* PCL Host-based Ver. 8.4.5 or Commercial slim driver N/A Deskjet 5440 series V.60.051.645 or Yes N/A Commercial slim driver Deskjet 5550/ 5551 Ver. 7.1.0 Yes or N/A Commercial slim driver Deskjet 5650 series Ver. 8.4.5 Yes or N/A Commercial slim driver Deskjet 5740 series Ver. 10.4.0 Basic Yes features...
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...printer language. These host-based printers and their associated drivers do not work in Citrix environments by HP. HP printer Deskjet 710/712/720/ 722 Supported in Citrix environment Not Supported PCL N/A HP-supported drivers* Host-based N/A Deskjet 810/812/815 Not ...Supported N/A N/A Deskjet 3900 series Not Supported N/A N/A Deskjet D2300 Series Not Supported N/A N/A Deskjet D4100 Not Supported N/A N/A * Driver versions more current than the versions stated in this table are not recommended or supported in networked environments including Citrix and, therefore, ...
...printer language. These host-based printers and their associated drivers do not work in Citrix environments by HP. HP printer Deskjet 710/712/720/ 722 Supported in Citrix environment Not Supported PCL N/A HP-supported drivers* Host-based N/A Deskjet 810/812/815 Not ...Supported N/A N/A Deskjet 3900 series Not Supported N/A N/A Deskjet D2300 Series Not Supported N/A N/A Deskjet D4100 Not Supported N/A N/A * Driver versions more current than the versions stated in this table are not recommended or supported in networked environments including Citrix and, therefore, ...
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...N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A 19 Using an associated Deskjet driver will be available on a walk-up basis (fax, scan, card readers, etc.) HP recommends downloading the 'basic features' or corporate drivers when using mapped drivers. HP printer Officejet 500/600 Officejet 700 Officejet 1150 Officejet 1170/1175 Officejet D Series Officejet... Citrix environments may use the associated Deskjet printer driver. HP All-in Citrix environments. Using HP ink-based All-in-One and Photosmart printers HP does not directly support the use of consumer ink...
...N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A 19 Using an associated Deskjet driver will be available on a walk-up basis (fax, scan, card readers, etc.) HP recommends downloading the 'basic features' or corporate drivers when using mapped drivers. HP printer Officejet 500/600 Officejet 700 Officejet 1150 Officejet 1170/1175 Officejet D Series Officejet... Citrix environments may use the associated Deskjet printer driver. HP All-in Citrix environments. Using HP ink-based All-in-One and Photosmart printers HP does not directly support the use of consumer ink...
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HP printer Officejet 5100 Series Officejet 5500 Series Officejet 5600 Series Officejet 6100 Series Officejet 6200 Series Officejet 6300 Series Officejet 7100 Series Officejet 7200 Series Officejet 7300 Series Officejet 7400 Series... Not tested Not tested Not tested Not tested Not tested Not tested Not tested Not Supported Not Supported Not Supported Not Supported Not Supported PCL N/A HP-supported drivers* Host-based N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A Use Deskjet 5550 N/A Use Deskjet 5740 N/A Use Deskjet 5900 N/A Use Business Ink cp 1160 N/A Use Deskjet 6540 N/A Use Deskjet 6540 N/A Use ...
HP printer Officejet 5100 Series Officejet 5500 Series Officejet 5600 Series Officejet 6100 Series Officejet 6200 Series Officejet 6300 Series Officejet 7100 Series Officejet 7200 Series Officejet 7300 Series Officejet 7400 Series... Not tested Not tested Not tested Not tested Not tested Not tested Not tested Not Supported Not Supported Not Supported Not Supported Not Supported PCL N/A HP-supported drivers* Host-based N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A Use Deskjet 5550 N/A Use Deskjet 5740 N/A Use Deskjet 5900 N/A Use Business Ink cp 1160 N/A Use Deskjet 6540 N/A Use Deskjet 6540 N/A Use ...